[레딧] 리븐이 너프를 잘 안먹는 이유.

https://m.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4x2tgr/since_riven_is_getting_buffed_can_we_talk_about/?ref=search_posts

지난 6.17패치때 리븐이 버프를 받으면서 다시 OP논란이 되었는데요. 과연 북미에서도 이럴까  보다가 한 유저가 리븐의 실태에 대해서 이야기하자는 글이 화재글에 올라왔더군요.

아래는 레딧댓글들(번역은 차근차근할예정.)

Rimgon • 58d, 11h

리븐 버프? 탑라이너들한태 안부나 전해라.
개인적으로 난  버프받은 리븐이랑 만나서 싸우는  hashinshin의 매드무비를기다리기 싫어. 나는 많은이들이 숨겨진 기술인 리븐 평캔에 대해 믾은 사람들이 이야기 한걸 뵜어. I've got another, very similar hidden mechanic to point out. 카이팅. 이건 모든 원딜들한테 핵심인 스킬이지. 그리고 yet it relies on cancelling the last part of the auto animation. There sure as heck isn't a tooltip for that, yet nobody argues that kiting is an unhealthy mechanic. I'd say that's food for thought, at the very least.

flamenecrosFlamenecross • 58d, 15h

Riot has stated it wasn't intentional but they consider it important to her kit, the last time they tested removing it they didn't like it and kept it as is. Q canceling is one of the easier parts of playing Riven, her true strength comes from timing all of her spells and chaining them together in an optimal manner, while at the same time using animation canceling/overlap to fit in as much as possible in a short time frame. Riot is aware of this and balances her keeping this in mind. I've always been of the camp removing skill is a bad thing, and if there exist no high action and mechanically intensive champs then people like me who love to press buttons fast will be in a sore spot.By the way if Riven doesnt get buffed this patch, i'm 99% sure they will in next pbe cycle. These buffs are not for her current state, in one night 3 of her counters got buffed. And before that a couple champs like Renekton was buffed too. They probably thought she would have a hardtime if they didn't do that
The fact that animation cancelling in such ways is a detail you cannot find on official sources of information, is also a problem.


Quint-VPraise our KR overlords • 58d, 13h

A lot of information in this game is either just not present (the client itself being the worst part here) or lacking in precision.
For example, how are you supposed to know at a glance that Ezreal's Q applies only onhit effects, or what Draven's Q axes keep functioning even when he's silenced? How are you supposed to know which Rylai's slow takes priority on spells that are both AoE and DoT? There are many hidden details and just the game functionality in itself is not well explained.
As noted in the OP, players can easily find themselves surprised by how fast Riven dishes out damage. There is no official information anywhere that even suggests that she can.edit: as an example of how bad Riot's resources are: the official game page doesn't show champions' cooldowns. Yup. That's right. And the client doesn't show base damages/stat scaling, don't forget that.

kittenxs • 58d, 15h
I just hope they dont go through with the buff. She is perfectly balanced at 50% winrate @ plat or higher. The reason to why they would buff her ult is to make more money on the Championship skin that is going to be released.

I'm just afraid that she'll be gutted after the buff. :/


1 리븐의 스킬셋,리븐의 평캔(자동화하거나 삭제하라)를 지적하는 글을 올림.

2 그러자 레딧 댓글에서 리븐이 뭐가 문제 있나며 쉴드침.

3 즉 리븐이 너프를 잘 안먹는거는 리븐을 열심히 쉴드치는 북미 유저들 때문인것.(니달리도 마찬가지)


현제 리븐 북미 승률http://champion.gg/champion/Riven